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people who were questioning it were the democrats who were expecting red meat from her, and that's exactly what they got. she got a very good reaction from that comment. that's exactly what the iowa state fair is about. look. it also gave her the opportunity to underscore the partisanship that has become this whole issue about e-mail. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com millions of dollars have been dedicated to that, and they have found absolutely nothing. she's in an enviable position. she beats all of the top polls, beats every republican and so i can see why republicans are still going after her. >> we've got to wrap it up. we're actually into the next hour. >> and your new hour of "new day." starts right now. all righty. we're so glad to have your company as always. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell and we're starting out with breaking
news out of indonesia. a regional flight carrying 54 people is missing. >> the flight left jayapura at 2:52 in the afternoon. it lost contact about a half hour into its journey. >> we understand from authorities the search has been suspended for the day. bad weather there. nightfall. it's dark. officials say it will resume in the morning. kathy novak is following the story. she's in seoul, south korea. kathy, get us up to date. >> reporter: we're waiting for a press conference to get under way in jakarta. what we do know is a bit about this plane. it carried 54 people, 44 adults, 5 crew, 2 children. this is a prorchs vince of indo,
ten minutes away from where it was to land. it's a mountainous region on the border of papua, new guinea. there's much talk about getting a search under way again when it's light, whether they'll be able to access such a remote region. >> kathy novak, thank you so much. let's bring in our analyst. we've got former inspector with us -- former faa inspector david. i want to broaden it. what stands out to you here, the major question you want answered? >> well, the first thing i want to know is was the aircraft actually on its flight path, and because it was so close to where it was supposed to land ten minutes out, it should have already been into its descent and approaching into the landing
airplane. what's curious to me is if the aircraft checked in, this search area should be very small and very finite. >> david, this is what i think is the most disturbing, one of the most disturbing things, is you have family members waiting at the airplane ten minutes before the flight landed and now they're hearing nothing. the word is there was an initial search but it was called off because of nightfall and bad weather but they will resume the search but not until the morning. as a family member i'm sitting there wondering where they are, if they're alive, if they're suffering, what's happening. certainly investigators are not going to sleep tonight waiting for morning. help us to understand what's happening at this hour as they prepare for that research. >> it's a very good question, incredibly difficult time for
the family members. to risk additional lives with the nighttime around winds and things going on in the mountainous regions is extremely hazardous, extremely dangerous to be out there. the last think you want is additional lives to be taking in search and rescue efforts. it's of the utmost importance to them as well as anyone else that they continue to look for this aircraft. now, it can be a good sign in that there hasn't been any reports of other aircraft in the area reporting flight plumes or reports. that's a very good sign there are survivors. maybe it hasn't crashed at all. maybe it made an emergency landing in a survivable area. there's a lot of possibility still. there's no reason to close hope. there's no reason to be overly dramatic about it at this point, although it is terribly dramatic for the families, of course.
but there's no answers right now, and all we have to do is pray for patience and wait for those searchers to do a safe rescue. >> but what would they be doing at this hour? how would they be preparing for this search? >> they're looking very intently at where the highest probabilities are. if the area is in a ravine, that's the first place they'll search. they're planning their search for tomorrow. even though it's nighttime, they have crews being positioned into the highest probable areas so they can go out and start looking from the ground search. they'll be prepared. they have fleer, which is a heat-sensing searching device where as they fly over it, they can see infrared where there's heat from fire or even bodies or reports of people walking on the ground. so those technologies are being prepare and mounted onto various aircraft right now.
there's a lot of preparation that needs to be done for proper search and rescue, and i can assure you that rescue operation is going on right now. >> david, several times over the last two years, we have analyzed missing planes and aircraft. over the years there have been other countries getting involved. do you expect that to occur in the morning or do you expect that will be led solely by the indedough kn indonesians. >> >> it will be led by the indonesians and it will be led by a french company who makes the airbus. they'll be heavily involved because they're the company that manufactures the aircraft. there will be a lot of expertise coming in. most likely they'll reach out because of their limited experience, if this turns out to
be an accident, of course, they'll be brought in, anybody involved in the aircraft manufacture itself and the operations. they may bring in the ntsb. most likely the ntsb would not be involved in this yet. it will most likely be the french government that will be involved. >> i want to point out the picture is the exact plane they're looking for. david, this was operated by trigana air service, which we understand was founded in 1991. they've had 14 accidents or incidents since they opened 24 years ago. help us understand. is that an excessive number? is that average for an airline? 14 accidents or incidents in 24 years? what does that tell you? anything? >> no. it's certainly not average. it's higher than normal. as far as accidents versus
incidents, incidents are precurs precursors, things that happen on the ramp, a truck rams into a plane or something. those are incidents that don't create fatalitiefatalities. of the 14, probably -- a higher percentage are incidents and not fatal accidents. but note those are higher numbers, but they've taken note of that. back in 2014 they did an audit on the regulatory culture or environment in indonesia. and more recently the european union has done an investigation of this airmen and they decided to take it off of its list of safe airlines around do no s a them to fly in european countries. unfortunately in this region the flyers don't have a whole lot of
options of where they can go and what airlines they can fly in the region. so most of the people on board the aircraft are locals who do not have a whole lot of other choices. >> hey, david. you have said something that has really grabbed my ear. we have no reports of smoke plumes or any social media reports of flames as you suggested, and there haven't been any. how common is it for a plane to disappear so far along into a flight. it was supposed to end, what, in ten minutes, to not have any of those reports and still a plane that's missing? >> that's a really good question, victor. i did a couple of accidents in which this was the case, and it took us even a couple of days to find the aircraft. one of these aircraft was on close final approach into casper wyomi casper, wyoming. it was on its flight packet and on its way to the airport.
now. it was a different situation because it was snow and winter but similar in that it crashed in the final minutes. you have to understand that still gives a lot. in casper, there's a lot of mountainous terrain on this side of the airport, but it can take a long time. if there's a crash in which there's flames, smoke plumes, that sort of thick, you have other aircraft flying that same pachlkt as they're flying in, they're very aware of a plane flying off the radar. they're informed of that. they're told to keep looking, see if there are any signs. so immediately after that there are airlines flying into airports looking for this thing. at this point to think there was a horrific crash and fire and that sort of thing, it doesn't look that way. i would think by now if that did happen, we would have reports of a fallen aircraft.
>> david soucie, thank you so much. we want to thank you for your insight into this. now, we go to indra petersonss. tell us if there are any updates? >> reporter: there has been a sighting in a district where a community said they see an airline flying really close to the left but they are still trying to confirm that. and in the area of oksibil, if i'm not mistaken, is the area where it was reported by the transportation minister that the contact was lost at the time. and then to get to that point, if it's correct where the flight is missing, then it's going to
taken three days due to the condition of the area. they're on the valley. they're on the mountain site of jayapura, and it's really hard to get there by land. they cannot continue the rescue search. they put it on hold until tomorrow. >> let me understand. this victor. you say there were reports of planes flying pretty low there. >> reporter: correct. >> are these reports referring to the search or reports around the time that this plane disappeared? >> reporter: it was around the time of the airplane disappear. >> okay, okay. >> okay. all right. indra, we appreciate that update. thank you so much for letting us
know that. that's interesting to hear that planes were flying so low. and, again, this is a very mountainous area. we've been told mountains as high as 10,000 feet. >> yeah. >> so, again, the search will resume tomorrow morning but you just cannot help but they of these families who are counting down the hours until somebody gets back in the air and can hopefully give them some answers as to what happened with this missing plane that has 54 people on board including five children, two of which are infants. stay with us. we have more coming up in just a moment. the sky. that's that new gear feeling. this week, these office depot brand notebooks just one cent. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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oksibil. >> reporter: yeah, victor. what we know is it's a relatively small town in relative terms. remember this town is roughly a few million people. this is much, much smaller. there is no major population center in the interior. just, you know, a word of caution on the reports we're getting from all sorts of, you know, not only our local teams. officials are trying to piece this together themselves. they're making calls. information is coming in. it's typical in a situation like this that we're hearing there were planes flying low. there was a sighting, maybe there wasn't. again, caution on that front. i think the important thing to mention is the plane was flying over some rugged remote terrain, mountain peaks, tall, if not taller than 10,000 feet. it was just about ten minutes from its scheduled landing when it went missing, victor. >> good point because at this point there have been no reports of plumes of smoke or any fire or anything other than this
plane disappeared, and authorities in indonesia are saying they're still looking for it. they're not saying that it crashed at this point. but one point i know you're aware of is that the growth in this area and the growth of this indust industry, a smaller airlines for a growing middle class. >> reporter: that's right, victor. it's certainly happening. it's one of the fastest if not one of the fattest growing aviation markets in the world. that's more people who have money to spend, a growing middle class, not only in indonesia but outside of that in malaysia and southeast asia. there are more people flying in this region than ever before. one of the questions that came up, victor and christi, it came up with air 80-501 and a military cargo plane that crashed two months ago in the
city of may don. we're talking about radar systems and air traffic control. are they keeping up with this growing industry. that's a big question that came up earlier this year. the president of indonesia said he wanted a top-down review and more transparent industry. it is complicated. they have a long way to go in terms of all of these factors. questions, though, with this missing plane about oversight, about maintenance, and, of course, about the regional infrastructure here. the biggest challenge, as you mentioned, continuing to be trying to get any information out of what is an incredibly remote region. >> not only that but if oksibil is as small as you speak of it, you have to wonder how quickly they can get, what they need for that investigation. again, that investigation, other than that search will be will be resuming tomorrow morning. david molko, we appreciate it.
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dramatic, of course. skipping out on the soapbox, coming in on a helicopter, and huge crowds were scrambling to the front-runner here. apparently he was trying the fried foods and giving chopper rides as you see the helicopter there. he did address the hillary clinton e-mail controversy. jeff has more. tell us about that conversation. >> reporter: good morning, christi. >> good morning. >> reporter: we did catch up with donald trump just for a minute as he walked through the iowa state fair. of course, he's been talking about this issue a lot, about the private e-mail server that secretary hillary clinton has agreed to turn over to the justice department. an issue dogging her campaign. she said it's simply a parseson attack. she said there's no there there. we caught up with donald trump. let's listen to what he said. >> it's a criminal problem. you look at general petraeus.
he was destroyed over a much lesser event. >> reporter: but his e-mails were marked classified, hers were not. >> it seems they were and somebody took the markings off. somebody's got a big problem, and it looks like hillary. look. it is what it is. it was a terrible thing she did. it was actually a foolish thing. there was no reason to do it, and she's got a big problem. >> reporter: so donald trump says she has a big problem. that's, of course, up to the voters to decide. but shortly after he was at the state fair, bernie sanders, the socialist from vermont, drew a very, very large crowd, one of the largest crowds we've actually seen. he did it advice the country. we caught up with him afterward on how his campaign is going and how he hopes to translate that into actual votes. let's take a listen. >> it just tells me the same i've seen all over this country and that is people have had it up to here.
they're sick and tired of seeing this great nation, a great nation like ours where almost all of the wealth and income are going to the top 1% while the middle class continues to disappear. they're sick and tired of a campaign finance system that allowed the koch brothers and billionaires the literally buy elections. >> reporter: bernie sanders is really resonating with the voters. we're here in iowa. a lot of presidential candidates were here over the weekend and more will be here in the coming week. christi? >> all right. jeff zeleny, we appreciate it, thank you. >> let's talk with mariah cardona and also political director and reagan administration, also trump supporter, jeffrey. i want to start with you. trump has confirmed to cnn he plans to spend a million dollars
on his cam pape and bush becoming a pub it. is that resonating? >> yeah, i do think it's resonating. very candid, i think a lot of people in america have come to d the conclusion that washington and the system in washington is corrupt and it's open for bid and when somebody like donald trump comes along and says he plans to spend his own money and not that of lobbyists which is what the bush campaign is going to have to do, you've got an important messenger. >> there are huge crowds, tens of thousands at a time. why is it dominance in rallying support showing up in the polls? >> well, what i think that you're seeing is he's speaking to, frankly, a lot of democrats. a lot of things he's talking about, hillary clinton is faulking about as well. again, i think bernie is
exciting democrats. that's good for hillary clinton. it will make her a better candidate and a better candidate in the general election and it's something that makes this process a much stronger one from a democratic standpoint. i think what you're seeing is hillary clinton still continues to have a strong leading role. in the average of all the polls she's still beating everybody on the democratic side and republican side. her favorability is higher than any republican, so she's still in a very strong position. but, hey, bernie is still doing what he needs to be doing. it's a great process because of it. >> a big weekend wrapping up here with all the politics. i guess we have to pack the butter cow away for next year. maria cardona and jeffrey lord, thank you very much. >> you really wanted that butter cow. >> i wanted to see it in person. >> stay tuned next. mike huckabee. that all starts alt the top of the hour on cnn.
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